Ninja Nights

I'm one of the authors to the BDSMLibrary website. For those clever people you can probably guess which I am. I've been knocking around an idea lately for a Story called Ninja Nights.

I've always been fascinated by the Silent Assassins. Not the American movie version of them but the real ones who only killed on assignment. So what I wanted to do is create a story which used the old ways of the Ninja. I had the idea that a Barbarian clan attacked a Monks Monastery, what the Barbarians didn't know was they were being assassinated from elsewhere by a Ninja Clan assigned to kill them.

However, during all this the Barbarians captured a bunch of cute women which after some serious sword-work the girls were now in the hands of the Ninjas. Ninjas like to keep slaves just like everyone else (in this story anyway) so what do the Ninjas do for kicks while they wait for their next assignment.

All ideas are welcome and nothing is too brutal. It's only a story after all.

Phoenix

I think you could really play up the humilliation aspect if (I'm relaly not sure as to how accurate this is, btw, I'm going on stereotypes *blush*) they were from a culture were women were supposed to be very reserved. It can be more of a shock/more traumatizing that way.

And of course if you have a big group of girls and a few guys I think there's kind of an ob-orgy? ;)

I agree that Japanese women are very reserved and would rather put-up with any abuse as long as the family name isn't tarnished. Perhaps it'll be better if I just import some European girls. More fun that way.

I was thinking with the Ninjas that if they had techniques to kill and cause unconsciousness, then perhaps they had ideas towards pain and torture. With their range of weapons one could almost sense a whole new world of extreme BDSM.

First of all, forgive me if I misunderstand the direction of the discussion on this subject. I like your Ninja Nights idea because it creates a complex situation with four different interest groups (the monks, the barbarians, the ninjas, and the women), any one group of which may be aware of some but not all of the other players. You might consider consider picking a character from each group and telling a portion of the story from each perspective. There are lots of ways you could go with that.

The current discussion seems to rotate around 'How shall we torture the women?' If that's all it's going to amount to, then what you're left with is just another one dimensional blood orgy. I think this idea could be more than that. The sex should be subordinate to the plot, not the reverse. What are the interests and goals of the various players? It would also be more interesting if the women were more than just pawns and if their suffering was motivated by something more than lust.

Hi Harold :)
I am new to sex fantasy writing, although I have written many stories.
I have a question.
I was under the impression that most people, myself included, wanted a little character development, a nice setting, some plot in a sex fantasy story.
Are you saying that you and maby others, would like a torture and or BDSM story with pages and pages of character development and much more plot?

The short answer is yes. Although you exaggerate my argument (pages and pages of character development), I would like to see something more than a one dimensional single sexual encounter, which is what too many stories consist of.
I want an actual plot. I want believable characters. Just because it's porn doesn't mean you can dispense with these things. You aren't likely to come up with anything BDSM-wise that hasn't already been done a thousand times. Where you can be original is in the context in which those activities take place, but that requires a plot.
The reason I liked the Ninja Nights idea was because it offered a lot of scope for plot development with various interest groups competing for possession of the women, who themselves would be yet another interest group with their own agenda.

Harold

The short answer is yes. Although you exaggerate my argument (pages and pages of character development), I would like to see something more than a one dimensional single sexual encounter, which is what too many stories consist of.
I want an actual plot. I want believable characters. Just because it's porn doesn't mean you can dispense with these things. You aren't likely to come up with anything BDSM-wise that hasn't already been done a thousand times. Where you can be original is in the context in which those activities take place, but that requires a plot.

Harold
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While I may be in the minority on this, I have to side with Harold.

While I'm not sure that I always succeed myself, character, language, and plot are the characteristics that separate the stories we come back to, from those we scan through quickly. In a short story the plot must be relatively simple, and the characterization sketchy; but even in that format I want the villains to have "motivation" (however twisted), rather than simply being generalized sadists.

One of my own preferences: A story in which the villain(s) has/have a personal animus against the victim has far more flavor, IMO, then a story of a "professional" interrogator, whether he be a Nazi, a Witchhunter, a Taliban, or a member of the Inquisition, who is just doing his "job".

Your mileage may vary, of course

Boccaccio