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    Penile Enlargement: Fact or Phallacy?

    Are there medically sound ways to increase penis size?

    By Steven N. Gange, MD, FACS
    WebMD Answers to Questions Archive
    I?ve seen ads for penis enlargement aids, such as vacuum devices and pills, and am wondering if there is any validity to these claims? If not, what options are there for someone with a small penis?


    Come-ons like these rarely offer scientific proof, yet many men spend money on such products hoping for penile enlargement. They are falling prey to two misconceptions: 1) They have a smaller than average penis; 2) non-surgical penile enlargement is safe and effective.
    Misconception #1: The Small Penis
    Men in general have a distorted view of what?s normal for penile size. The fact is, "average" was not defined until recently. A study published in the September 1996 Journal of Urology concluded that average flaccid penile length was 8.8 cm (3 1/2 inches), and average erect length was 12.8 cm (5 inches). Also, according to many women?s magazine surveys, "size doesn?t matter." But many men remain fixated on the ideal of the 8- to 10-inch penis.
    Some men don?t even realize what they have. For example, obese men develop a suprapubic fat pad that conceals the penis, making it look shorter. Pressing firmly on this fatty tissue reveals the true penile length. I often explain this to patients, but a man who is convinced his penis is too small is hard to convince otherwise.

    Occasionally a perception of inadequate penile length is a manifestation of underlying feelings of inadequacy in general. In these instances, psychological counseling may prove helpful.

    Misconception #2: You Can Increase Penile Size Without Surgery
    There are no proven non-surgical methods of penile enlargement. Vacuum devices simply cause engorgement by drawing blood into the penis. (While these devices are very useful tools in the management of erectile dysfunction (ED), they do not progressively enlarge the penis.) No natural pill has any ability whatsoever to enhance penile size. Even Viagra does nothing to permanently affect penile size. Topical testosterone cream used in childhood can increase penile size by accelerating the effects of puberty, but there is no proof that testosterone cream applied to the adult penis enhances penile size.
    When Surgery Is Warranted
    Certain men suffering from urologic conditions may need plastic surgery on the penis: those with traumatic defects; those whose penises have retracted following a spinal cord injury; those born with a condition called epispadius (a severe penile deformity with associated shortening); and some men with Peyronie?s Disease (scarring of the penile shaft resulting in severe angulation and occasionally shortening). For these men, surgical procedures are available to give the penis additional length and a more normal appearance. However, these procedures, even in the best of hands, often result in wound infection or other healing complications. Sexual function may be impaired, and an artificial penile prosthesis may need to be inserted at the time of such surgery.
    Enlargement Surgery: Still Experimental and Risky
    Within the past 10 years, some surgeons have attempted purely cosmetic penile enlargement surgery on healthy men to enhance both length and girth of the penis. This surgery usually involves cutting the band of tissue that holds the penis up against the pubic bone (the suspensory ligament), and then injecting fat, harvested by liposuction, beneath the penile skin to add bulk. The surgery is still experimental: Two recent studies (one in 1994, the other in 1996) published in the Journal of Urology reported significant complications resulting from this surgery -- serious wound infections and penile deformity, such as lumpiness and asymmetry. In fact, the surgery is still so controversial and yields such poor results that it is considered generally unacceptable by both the plastic surgery and urological communities.
    In addition, such procedures are expensive, costing up to $10,000 in some instances. Penile enlargement is not a simple undertaking and is usually not medically necessary. If you choose to pursue surgical enlargement, be sure to check the credentials of your surgeon (e.g., board certification) and carefully weigh the risks and potential benefits.

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    Penis size...

    All I know is that mine has always been big enough to please me!

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    Going the opposite direction...

    i had a best friend (female) in college who had me set her up with this guy in one of my classes who she thought was hot. A week or so later she came and asked me for advice on how to break up with him. i asked her what was up, had he hurt her or something. She finally confessed that the guy had the smallest penis she'd ever seen, she swore it was only 2 inches long when hard - she said she couldn't even feel it inside her when they slept together. She wanted to break up with him, but also not hurt his feelings because he was such a nice guy. i let her make a confession to the guy that her and i were both in love and had been keeping our love secret for so long not wanting to break up our friendship. It worked, but i did feel sorry for the guy because i'm sure he knew the lie and most likely had gone through this many times. i don't know how much surgery could do for him because from everything i've read, at the most only between 1 to 2 inches can be gained from such an operation. But i guess 3 or 4 inches is better than 2.

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    Exclamation And she can't take over 4-6 in

    And that is why if the guy is bigger than 4-6in a woman can't take all of him. So size doesn't always mater. Those oversized guys can't do any better than a average size, and than he can't do as well. Like my Dad always told me it isn't the size of the hook but how you wiggal the worm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allalone46
    And that is why if the guy is bigger than 4-6in a woman can't take all of him. So size doesn't always mater. Those oversized guys can't do any better than a average size, and than he can't do as well. Like my Dad always told me it isn't the size of the hook but how you wiggal the worm.
    that's probably true for some, maybe most women, but I have 7-8 inches (depending on however you measure it) and it all fits in there..

    the real measure is the radius or circumference of the penis.

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    Whoa!

    Y'know, my hubbyasked me if i thought he was big. I was puzzled why he would want me to measure his cock. It came out at seven inches.
    I still don't understand what it is about the size. From what I just read in the article above, there's no really safe way to enlarge the penis, so why bother? For that matter, there's no really safe way to enlarge the breasts either; waht about all those implants leaking and causing problems and stuff?
    You are who you are. Accept yourself the way you are, and you'll be a happier person for it. And if your partner is the one complaining about your size, you need to find another partner. Someone who really cares about you, enough to share initmate activities with you, won't care that your cock is smaller than Joe Schlong on the TV screen.
    Two words for you to remember: digital enhancement. That cock on the screen may look 14 inches long, but it could also be an extension, or it could be digitally enhanced to look longer. Did you know, some of those girls in the 'Barely Legal' type flicks actually might be way more than eighteen? Some of them are in their twenties and thirties. The producers of the videos use the same software that was developed to age up missing children so you know what they look like now, only they use it to age down the girls in those pornos. They even de-age some twenty year olds to look ten to sell kiddie porn. And it's perfectly legal.
    Accept who you are. Don't try to change. While there are lots of cosmetic surgeries out there to change the way you look outside, remember, inside, you're still going to be the same person. Be happy with the person inside that skin. If your partner isn't happy with you, find another partner.

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    I completely agree with Tourguide that this whole topic is completely pointless and does not really need to be discussed. I just wanted to put an end to this average size argument. I am not going to join in on the what women prefer or what can fit in women side of this argument.

    On another not whoever started this thread should have just done some research. it took me a whole 15 seconds to find this info on a search engine




    http://www.edu.uni-klu.ac.at/~amikla...k/answer19.htm


    this was a study done at te Alfred C. Kinsey Institute for Sex Research
    Last edited by YoungBlood; 06-15-2004 at 10:44 PM. Reason: wrong link posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungBlood
    I completely agree with Tourguide that this whole topic is completely pointless and does not really need to be discussed. I just wanted to put an end to this average size argument. I am not going to join in on the what women prefer or what can fit in women side of this argument.
    Hmmm, what a novel approach to posting...criticising a thread and then bringing it back to life by contributing to it! LOL!

    i think that link was probably the sort of information the thread starter was looking for though..although a word of caution, upon doing the same 15 second search, i found the following reaearch, carried out by Durex, which gives a different answer to the age old question! (not to mention the hundreds of other surveys, all presenting slightly different findings).

    http://www.pridepenis.co.uk/What_is_...of_a_penis.htm

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