While I know nothing of any conspiracy or whatever you may want to call whatever it is that is going on, I have something to say. While this name does not show it I have been a member here for... awhile.. honestly i cant remember when i signed up. It was less than a year ago, maybe august?

I came here after googling some such words involving bdsm because my Ex Master and I were having problems, and I had no one around that would understandthe D/s relationship I was in.

I came into chat, honestly used chat more than the forums. Was taken in almost instantly by those who were there. Some of whom have helped me greatly and may not know it. This place became like a second home to me, with people that shared similar interests and soon most came to be like family. Better than my own family even, some members of which would most likely disown me if they knew I was involved in this lifestyle.

However, because I was away visiting my mother for almost two months and chose to not be online for awhile, I seem to have missed whatever it is that is going on. I will say though, that when I came back I noticed that it was almost entirely new faces in the chat, and those I did know--well some of them werent as friendly, and others were.

People say people you talk to online cant be your real friends- well screw that. Some people I have had strictly online relationships with are some of the ones i will never forget and will always hold dear in my heart. I am saddened that this post had to be started. But as Psy said... it had to be.

Yes delia has a point about the owners decision being ultimate (and this is no way a dis or insult to AC38 please note, it goes for all forums and chats in the world, however the person with the final say should take into consideration that not everybody gets along. Hell if everyone did thousands of our brothers and sisters and fathers and mothers wouldnt be getting killed overseas.

And as someone else said, ALL personal matters between owner and chatters should be put aside BY BOTH PARTIES when a situation involving any action whether it be warning or banning.

As for the forums I can't really say that things have changed, because only since my screen name change have I become really active in them.

I think however, that as the chat is said to be a COMPLETLY SEPERATE thing from the forums that a forum ban should NEVER be because of a chat ban unless of course the situation has spilled over into the forums in a way that disregards the FORUMS rules.

And there will always be newbies coming into a chat room. There will be times when the regulars will all but disappear and new ones emerge. This happens in any chat community.

But, where I stand as i read this post, is that if most of the people that made chat once seem like home to me are no longer going then there is no reason for me to go back.

I am not taking sides, as i dont know any of the story except what Red posted. And I can honestly, see her post being deleted (sorry i love you red) to try to discourage "flaming" The fact that this post has been allowed to carry out shows the people in charge of the forums are fair as much as possible.

It is sad that some people who are legal adults can not behave as such- and again that statement is not just about this site. I work retail- I deal with people everyday all day and I know that not all adults act like adults.

One more thing, as it has been said before i only want to reiterate the fact, that the gods of this forum should perhaps look into the reasons behind why the post has been started in the first place, and why so many have responded strongly to it.

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