Crikey. Right...

Having read through all this, my own feeling is this: i tend to agree with Donatien in terms of the actual points on the concepts of legality, over-arching legal points and semantics...HOWEVER, i also think the tone used to present these points was overly ironic to the point of being hurtful, and hence although not intended (which i honestly don't believe it was), i can easily see why nibbles (and Hunter) are upset/offended and hopefully Donatien's apology and explantion for some of the particularly hurtful bits goes some way to alleviating that offense.

I actually believe both Donatien and Hunter's post strayed from the spirit of peaceful debate both in choice of vocab and tone, but getting too personal in references is going too far.

Anyway, nibbles - you have every right to stand up and say you're angry or hurt, if you (or anyone) doesn't, then none of us can attempt to modify our tone in future posts, something i'm sure Donatien will endeavor to do in the future.

i'm gonna take this opportunity to remind everyone to make us of the 'report' feature if ever something steps too far over the line, we value Hunter, Nibbles, and Donatien as members and I would be happy to intercede on anyone's behalf.

If anyone wants to discuss this particular issue any further, please could you PM me or contact me on yahoo. Thanks.

sl