Ozme, please stay in these threads. Your voice of reasoning is refreshing. I have been reading the political threads to determine how much common sense and logical thinking is put into the threads. Motivation from most of the threads doesn't come from either. Most of the respondents are still reacting to the political ass kicking G. W. gave them in 2000 and then again in 2004.
What the disgruntled Democrats don't understand is that most Democrats really put the nation's well being ahead of their political party, as it should be with both parties. For 4 years after Bush won the 2000 election the disgruntled Democrats accused, ranted about chads, Supreme Court Judges, recounts, etc. They thought there own were listening. I guess maybe they were. If all the Democrats voted for the party, there was no way the Republicans could have won. In the end, Democrats love their country and will do what is best. That's why Bush was re-elected in 2004.
I have a feeling that Obama will be the next President. If he is, it will be because the people believe Obama will protect our country and keep us safe.If for any reason he fails to show the qualities needed to protect the country from our enemies, they will not elect him.
The sins of Bill Clinton were many and obvious. We Americans kept him because we felt he would protect us. Bill Clinton could not have won re-election without the many Republicans voting for him.
Even to a man in the Congress did the Democratic House defended Bill, although the blue dress was eventually found. With all this Hillary said it was all a right wing conspiracy. But, we all knew what all was going on. At least President Bush has never used past history against Bill Clinton or Hillary for that matter.
The point is, you cannot reason with these disgruntled ones. Even their own party does not consider their opinions as helpful just now Their arguments only fire up the Republicans and that's why Obama and Hillary are careful what they say.