LOL. Is it any wonder. Vanillia dating is no different, sans whips and chains.

It is very hard for submissives to take the plunge by themselves. But I don't think all the submissives here are the problem. It sounds from the many posts I have seen you make, that your own approach might be the real issue; that or a lack of patience.

Face the facts dude, the internet is a safe way for them to explore thier nature and if you can't play the mateing game as nature intended it...... tough. (I especially like the irony considering it's computerized)

I find it funny when I hear so called dominants claim that they sit back and let the submissives flock to them. Especially the one's that have jack shit going for them. It is no different than in real life, advertise, sit back, talk, etc etc, eventually couplulate with thier minds first and if lucky thier bodies, all from the saftey of your computer, and mabey ...someday...move on to real life.

It's just a faster proccess in a bar where it's assumed both parties are looking for action in real life later at his or her place.

That or do what you do and quit worrying about it. This approach works fine in real life for me as womanly observers pick up real quick on a guy that isnt genuine and secure with himself. If you come off as needy or look like you are prowling in real life the girls see it fast. My guess is they are the same here too.

Unless your tactical approach here is to get a "mercy fuck", in which case I say press on. (only kidding)

Funny how none of the submissives have posted to this thread. I was holding off hopeing to see what advice they had for you. Reading the posts of the submissives is one of my favorite ways to pick thier brains for the "good stuff". (Grins).