First of all, I am very clear on whatare punishmnets and whatis "pleasure". I never use spanking as a punishment. Primarily because that woul then preclude it from being used for pleasure. I also believe that pure spanking (ie, not caning, flogging, or other mechanical ass whippings) is done with the hand. There is something cathartic about skin on skin, warmth on warmth, sting or sting, etc etc etc. I can raise whatever blood vessels I desire without the use of an implement, and, feel the very things (cheek jiggling, etc) that I am seeing. Anyway, just My opinion on the topic.