Quote Originally Posted by delia View Post
Nope. I didn't say it was a negative term in the sense you are saying. You are implying I have a negative view of the term or believe it to be "wrong." THAT would be incorrect. So hopefully you didn't read into that incorrectly.

I meant linguistically, the term implies the negative: consentual non-consent IMPLIES consenting to not consenting to doing something--it's "negative"-- sort of saying "I agree not to agree not to do something"-- it's a negative negative.

That being said.

It IS formalistically unrealistic. Substantively, I understand what you are saying--you would consider yourself a no-limits slave. But formalistically, by implying that you consented to never choosing, that's a choice in & of itself, AND is also not feasible unless you don't have a brain. Neurologically, humans make decisions consistently--if only between A & B, they are still making decisions. You choose to allow your Dominant to treat you as he does--that's a choice EVERYtime he does something... Whether or not you want/are willing to admit it--that is another decision you have.

On the other hand, from the realist/substantive perspective, I understand you would consider yourself to not make your own decisions, but to have your Dominant make them for you. That is what you mean by "consenting non-consensual."

But... let's call apples apples... you made the decision, the choice if you will, every time your Dominant makes a decision to follow it... you could choose not to follow it--it's your choice, it's your submission, that drives you to do what he wishes. If you don't, there are consequences--everything up to & including perhaps ending the dynamic the way it's set up... but again, it's a choice.

THAT was my point. ~grins~

Yep, you're right I misunderstood what you meant by "negative"... however, I still stand by that the term makes sense if you look at it from the right angle. However, if you disagree... hey no skin off my nose- I didn't create the term lol. Regarding it being a continual choice to follow... well, that is exactly why it is what it is. Because there is no other option. There are plenty of times that I do not want a scene... or even a chunk of my life to go the way it does, but there is no option in this arrangement. See, I think perhaps where you and I are looking at this differently is that ... you see it as something that has potential for change or as you phrased it "ending the dynamic the way it's set up". That is the exact crux of the whole thing, right there. There is no way that I could "end the dynamic the way it's set up". There is no "out", no way to change it... no way to end it. And that is my point lol.