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    Quote Originally Posted by ian 2411 View Post
    If my question is unnecessary MMI; then why are you taking part in this discussion?
    Because, now you have raised this topic once more, it has to be responded to in case, by default, the impression is created that everyone agrees with the ideas originally expressed. Parliament abolished the death penalty in 1965. The question has been considered on more than one occasion since, and as the penalty has not been reinstated, it can now be considered settled, except by those who wish to whip up some kind of reactionary protest in order to impose their will on the people.

    Quote Originally Posted by ian 2411 View Post
    ... Personally the reason I don’t read The Mail is because there is no page 3 to satisfy my perverted mind and very few glossy pictures
    I think I'll just let that comment stand.

    Quote Originally Posted by ian 2411 View Post

    Yea right, rehabilitate a murderer, he has just killed a bank teller while trying to rob a bank ...
    That's a regular occurrence in the UK, isn't it? Tell me, when did the last bank clerk die in that way?

    Quote Originally Posted by ian 2411 View Post
    ... so we will put him in a class for naughty boys, and when the psychiatrist checks him out in twenty years time, who is probably a bigger nutcase than the murderer, he can let him out on the street to kill again. I have heard all that garbage with paedophiles, and it has never worked with them. Virtually certain they wouldn’t want to kill again you say. Well, as you and I are talking about reading material MMI, where do you get your data, out of the Beano?
    Oh, believe me, ian, I'm right about that. As for the Beano, I would put that comic on a higher intellectual plane than the paper you take.

    (With regard to paedophiles, and as a pure aside, I bet Sarah's Law will do nothing to make children safer (from a very low risk of abuse) than before, but it will make it much harder to trace suspects, and it will lead to vigilanteism and the inevitable attacks (and perhaps murder) of innocent people by self-righteous "enforcers" who think they have the right to extract justice on their own terms and in their own way. It's happened before, but these people are too stupid to learn. Despicable! What it will succeed in doing, however, is make it virtually impossible for an ordinary person to interact with kids at an ordinary level. Even you, as the father of four girls - I'm sure you never told me that before - might be regarded as a "risk," especially if it were known that you frequented this website.)

    Quote Originally Posted by ian 2411 View Post
    ... and if one of them was murdered because of jealousy or in a random act of violence. Then be assured, you are correct the death of the murderer will never bring that daughter back, but I personally would get a lot of satisfaction knowing that his life was going to be terminated very shortly afterwards. I would even send him letters while in prison taunting him on the fact that he was going to die. I can’t help it, because it is the animal instinct in me, and yes it is lust for revenge, maybe I am a barbaric person. I will still be alive, even if i am partially blinded.
    This is precisely what I mean. It's spleen, not justice

    Quote Originally Posted by ian 2411 View Post

    Why contradict yourself, in the above you say they have human rights, but you say in the same paragraph [I do not agree that every individual has the right to expect freedom eventually.] but surely that is a human right and a contradiction? In actual fact if you cared to check, a person in a UK prison only has basic rights.

    Regards ian 2411
    In what way do I contradict myself?

    Are you suggesting that human rights are not basic rights?
    Last edited by MMI; 01-26-2010 at 06:02 PM.

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