Imigration

[Thorne]

It was always treachery. You have chosen to raise these men to the status of heros, and to eulogise about their exploits, but they were far from noble in reality.

There are very few heroes who are noble in reality.

Might is always right huh?

Only if you are on the winning side. Otherwise it's oppression.

In that case Stalin was an angel and the Taliban should be running Afghanistan.

Up until his death, Stalin was an angel in the minds of the people of the USSR. Because he won! And there are still those in Afghanistan who look back upon the Taliban years as good times. It's all a question of perception.

I am saying that it isn't a bad thing to ignore that particular law. If might be a land grab, but I see it more like trespass by tortfeasors.

And I see it as illegal, regardless of others opinions of the law. Again, a question of perception.

It certainly doesn't make them traitors: they aren't Americans, are they?

You're right, they are invaders.

Any law that denies or suppresses a human right is a bad law.

And just how do laws protecting a country's borders from foreign invaders suppress a human right? No one has a right to ignore another country's laws.

And anyone who regards illegal immigrants as "lazy johnny-come-latelys" should really take a long hard look at himself.

I'm not calling them that, only speculating on how they would be viewed by the hypothetical new government. But if you don't believe any group which such government wouldn't regard them similarly you might want to have your rose-colored glasses checked. Once they've set up their own government and established an economic base, the last thing they'll want is a bunch of poor immigrants coming in and wrecking things.