Should troops have immunity from the laws in Iraq?

[Stealth694]

If you can guarantee an impartial trial, but an impartial Iraqi court? FORGET IT!
This incident is one of the things that made Iraq a Cluster F--k war.
Nobody knows who is an ally and who is an enemy, and everyone is changing sides daily.
Did anyone check and see if a member of that family was affiliated with insurgents?
No with a govt as corrupt, and fragmented as Iraq it would be best if we kept to the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice )
but also allow lawyers from Iraq and other countries to sit in and monitor the trial to make sure justice is done.

[IAN 2411]

If you can guarantee an impartial trial, but an impartial Iraqi court? FORGET IT!
This incident is one of the things that made Iraq a Cluster F--k war.
Nobody knows who is an ally and who is an enemy, and everyone is changing sides daily.
Did anyone check and see if a member of that family was affiliated with insurgents?
No with a govt as corrupt, and fragmented as Iraq it would be best if we kept to the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice )
but also allow lawyers from Iraq and other countries to sit in and monitor the trial to make sure justice is done.

I think that whatever way you want to look at this it will be wrong in the eyes of the other party. Unless the cases are tried by an impartial judge you will never get a satisfactory trial. There are very few international countries that like the UK or their forces, and there are even less that like the Americans. Court Martials are the order of the day with the agrieved parties representative sitting in to give their side. I am not in favour of justice and justice seen to be done. Its a little to much like kissing the ass of the person that is trying to kick yours.

Be well IAN 2411

[thir]

I think that whatever way you want to look at this it will be wrong in the eyes of the other party. Unless the cases are tried by an impartial judge you will never get a satisfactory trial. There are very few international countries that like the UK or their forces, and there are even less that like the Americans. Court Martials are the order of the day with the agrieved parties representative sitting in to give their side. I am not in favour of justice and justice seen to be done. Its a little to much like kissing the ass of the person that is trying to kick yours.
Be well IAN 2411

It is certainly very complicated! But it seems to me that the impartial judge you talked about is the only reasonable solution.

[leo9]

I am not in favour of justice and justice seen to be done Its a little to much like kissing the ass of the person that is trying to kick yours.

The problem, as ever, is that if once you support the principle that only the right people should get rights and justice, you have to hope that nobody decides to class you as one of the wrong people.

I've been in a position where someone reckoned they could break the rules with me because I was a bad person. Thank all the bleeding-heart liberals of the past, I live in a country where justice is still available to everyone, not just the right people.

In this case it feels easier because the people you're writing off are a different race a long way away, and not our friends anyhow, so it doesn't matter about them. Until you start trying to get justice for your own people, and someone else a long way away decides it doesn't matter about them.