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    8 years of Republican Rule, Fiscal MisManagement, Reckless Foreign Policy Decsions ect are enough we need a change in November
    In 8 years in Office Bush tok a 500 billoin dollar Surplus left to him and turned it into a 3.5 Trillion Dollar dedecit and now wanta a 3.1 Trillion dolar budget but Social Programs, take 500billoin from Social SEcurity and other Social sErvice Programs but increase the Defense Department Budget by 5-7% in 2009, I think not I live some Social Security Disablitiy I am Physicaly Unable to work, I do not want my bnenfits vcut, i can barely afford to exsist as it is, $3.00 a gallon of gas ect ect now is the time for change

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    The worst possible way to figure out how to solve the economic problems of this country, or any problems anywhere, is by polling the American people. Naturally the majority of them are going to blame the government or the banks or the man in the moon! None of them will want to admit that the biggest problem is those same people mortgaging themselves to the hilt to buy the latest cell phone, or the fastest computer, or that big screen HDTV for the Superbowl! After all, the banks are willing to bail them out, right?
    Well, the fit has hit the shan and the banks aren't bailing them out anymore. Are they going to blame themselves? Not likely! "It's the Republicans, or the Democrats, or the oil industry, or the stock brokers, or the Japanese, or the terrorists or anybody and everybody else, but not ME!"
    When the American people learn some financial responsibility, maybe then they will have some ideas about how to fix the economy. Until then, these polls are a waste of time and effort. But at least the pollsters are collecting a salary!
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    The worst possible way to figure out how to solve the economic problems of this country, or any problems anywhere, is by polling the American people. Naturally the majority of them are going to blame the government or the banks or the man in the moon! None of them will want to admit that the biggest problem is those same people mortgaging themselves to the hilt to buy the latest cell phone, or the fastest computer, or that big screen HDTV for the Superbowl! After all, the banks are willing to bail them out, right?
    Well, the fit has hit the shan and the banks aren't bailing them out anymore. Are they going to blame themselves? Not likely! "It's the Republicans, or the Democrats, or the oil industry, or the stock brokers, or the Japanese, or the terrorists or anybody and everybody else, but not ME!"
    When the American people learn some financial responsibility, maybe then they will have some ideas about how to fix the economy. Until then, these polls are a waste of time and effort. But at least the pollsters are collecting a salary!
    But at least they are expressing there views in a oublic wasy in a free society lie it was said many yearsago "I may not agree with what you said, but I will defend with my life your right to say it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    But at least they are expressing there views in a oublic wasy in a free society lie it was said many yearsago "I may not agree with what you said, but I will defend with my life your right to say it"
    No one is denying them their right to express their views, and no one is denying their right to elect whomever they want. What concerns me is the number of politicians who will be swayed by the polls and will screw things up by trying to follow the advice of people who don't know what they're talking about.

    Just because most people THINK it's right, doesn't necessarily MAKE it right!
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    No one is denying them their right to express their views, and no one is denying their right to elect whomever they want. What concerns me is the number of politicians who will be swayed by the polls and will screw things up by trying to follow the advice of people who don't know what they're talking about.

    Just because most people THINK it's right, doesn't necessarily MAKE it right!
    True, but in light of the way things have gone the last 8 years ANYTHING, had to be better then what we have now, I do notthink the Repbilcans have achancein the World to retain the White House, but that is only my view

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    True, but in light of the way things have gone the last 8 years ANYTHING, had to be better then what we have now, I do notthink the Repbilcans have achancein the World to retain the White House, but that is only my view
    I don't think they do, either. And I'm not a bit sorry to see it! But don't make the mistake of believing that whoever takes over can't be any worse! All we can do is hope that whoever it is WON'T be any worse.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    I don't think they do, either. And I'm not a bit sorry to see it! But don't make the mistake of believing that whoever takes over can't be any worse! All we can do is hope that whoever it is WON'T be any worse.
    When you have a President who says "I listen to my Advisers not the American People" need he forget who put him there, I do NOT remember his advisers placing him in office, first the Suprmeme Court does, this was said in November 2006 when the Democrats took Control Of Congess, but unfortuently not with a Veto Proof Majority, need he forget, I do not REMEMBER his adviser electing him to office (this remark was made after The Dems took overi n November of 2006 after the Ameircan Public spoke up and said enough is enough, yes the current Congres has a lower approval rating then the President, but the fatc that the Deomcrtas listen to the American People and tried to pass variou bits of Legilation that We as People asked for, the Presdient vetos it, but the DEmocrats do not have enough of a Majority to over ridehisvetos, The Dem kept their promises the President did not asstill does not care whatthe American People
    Even recently with the so called Stimulus Packagem Democrats wanted to add in money for those whosho's unemployment benefits ran ou,t for seniors and pepe who aredisabled, the Presdient said no that is too expsensive, but he did ask for rebates for those who earned up to $150,000 a year, but it was lowered to $85,000, if Bush got his way Bill gateswould be getting $2,200 back for his wife and 2 kids i do no think Bill Gates needs a tax rebate
    I live on Social Security disbalitiy, I can use that money ot pay my bills and for food it is not my doing I am disbled that was not part of my life's plan, but it happened, then in his 2009 budget he wants totake 500 billoin from Social SEcurity and sand other Social Service Programs from people who really need the money and services, he will not so this but he will increase the Petagon Budget 5-7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    The worst possible way to figure out how to solve the economic problems of this country, or any problems anywhere, is by polling the American people. Naturally the majority of them are going to blame the government or the banks or the man in the moon! None of them will want to admit that the biggest problem is those same people mortgaging themselves to the hilt to buy the latest cell phone, or the fastest computer, or that big screen HDTV for the Superbowl! After all, the banks are willing to bail them out, right?
    Well, the fit has hit the shan and the banks aren't bailing them out anymore. Are they going to blame themselves? Not likely! "It's the Republicans, or theDemocrats, or the oil industry, or the stock brokers, or the Japanese, or the terrorists or anybody and everybody else, but not ME!"
    When the American people learn some financial responsibility, maybe then they will have some ideas about how to fix the economy. Until then, these polls are a waste of time and effort. But at least the pollsters are collecting a salary!
    Well said! You deserve an award for your economic insights. Keep up the good work. You prove that plagiarizing reports does not lead to economic scholarship.

    No one person, Dem. or Rep. is at fault in a recession, as you well point out. To those who want to use the state of the economy for political reasons, you get


    mkemse, listen up and try to help the problem that the nation faces. It is an American challenge not Dem. or GOP thing. You are being a divider, not a uniter.To help the problem with the economy stop pointing at Bush. He did not teach you financial irresponsibility. By the way, did you ever notice or care to comment on the fact that the Democratic Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush?

    I really believe that whoever is elected President, that person will do his best to help the economy. However, as that great philosopher of all toilets once said: Shit Happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmrs2 View Post
    Well said! You deserve an award for your economic insights. Keep up the good work. You prove that plagiarizing reports does not lead to economic scholarship.

    No one person, Dem. or Rep. is at fault in a recession, as you well point out. To those who want to use the state of the economy for political reasons, you get


    mkemse, listen up and try to help the problem that the nation faces. It is an American challenge not Dem. or GOP thing. You are being a divider, not a uniter.To help the problem with the economy stop pointing at Bush. He did not teach you financial irresponsibility. By the way, did you ever notice or care to comment on the fact that the Democratic Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush?

    I really believe that whoever is elected President, that person will do his best to help the economy. However, as that great philosopher of all toilets once said: Shit Happens!

    The United States needs to start taking care of it own MANY HUGE
    s issues before we helps every country on earth that asks for our help
    I have no issue with US helping others along as we as American are taken care of FIRST by our government

    If i buy 1 ice cream cone and my friend is with me i will give him part of it when my urge for ice cream is gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    8 years of Republican Rule, Fiscal MisManagement, Reckless Foreign Policy Decsions ect are enough we need a change in November
    In 8 years in Office Bush tok a 500 billoin dollar Surplus left to him and turned it into a 3.5 Trillion Dollar dedecit and now wanta a 3.1 Trillion dolar budget but Social Programs, take 500billoin from Social SEcurity and other Social sErvice Programs but increase the Defense Department Budget by 5-7% in 2009, I think not I live some Social Security Disablitiy I am Physicaly Unable to work, I do not want my bnenfits vcut, i can barely afford to exsist as it is, $3.00 a gallon of gas ect ect now is the time for change
    History proves that fiscal management works best on the federal level in the USA, if the President is of another party than the majority in Congress. Bill Clinton was a Democrat who had to work with a Republican majority in Congress. George W. Bush had a Republican majority until 2006. It looks like there will be a Democrat majority in Congress after the 2008 elections, so for fiscal responsibility, it would be best to have a Republican President.

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