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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianaAurora View Post
    I am a working mother.

    I don't think a woman who stays at home is "lower class".

    But lets look at the reality:

    A million times repeated scenario - a boy and a girl hook up, get married, they have children and she is the one who stays at home.

    I deal with and see all types of stay-at-homes wives/mothers on a daily basis. With some, I am friends and we talk about everything.

    But if I have to discuss something important, and especially if its money/business related, her opinion - whether you like it or not - at the end doesn't matter. And I have nothing to do with that. Her husband naturally takes over the conversation, he talks to me as an equal, but sidelines his wife. And this guys aren't chauvinists! They are model and loving husbands and fathers, some even ask for their wives opinion, but then they just decide over it, because he knows better, , even when they dont. And remember, these are just vanilla couples. They never assume they know better than me.

    Back to my example, boy will carry the girl on the palm of his hand, until he finds one younger and more interesting. Boom, divorce!
    Do you know what half of the people (usually conservative types, the kind that speak against "feminists" here) say, (this is based on countless examples, I can provide transcripts), in short - she is just a leach, he is the one who earned the money! Its the feminists and liberal types that say, she is the one who supported and enabled (the bastard) to do that, raised his kids, kept his house - she is entitled to half.

    So now the boy and the girl are divorced, and where does that leave her? Her sense of identity is crushed. If she is really lucky, she got a fer alimony settlement and he is willing to pay it without a fuss; but people will still talk about it behind her back. If she is not so lucky, she will have to get a job and what will be her prospects, or live of benefits.

    IMO, on this I am with men. Regardless of which party initiated the divorce, I don't think He should be expected to pay spousal support to a woman who is no longer his wife. And its still men who who usually pay alimony, because men are usually bigger earners!

    p.s. 99.9% of men cant handle SEAL training, so whats your point? That because you couldn't, its fer to that one woman who can, that she isn't even given a chance? Nice.
    My God! If you truly believe that, you are sooo sexist!! No - I don't believe you do belive it truly. You are making a point by exaggeration, surely.

    That's ok then. Feminist propaganda.

    But, for your information, I am aware of many women who "control the purse strings" - it probably divides up into equal numbers. (Even wifey quizzes me on what I've used my credit card for sometimes ...)

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    You have all these preconceived notions about who Feminists are. And yet it is you who constantly is trying to make this into that men and women are enemies. I don't see it that way, I think men are wonderful creatures, that doesn't mean that I am blind about how things really are. All I would like is for the society to outgrow the point where I have to defend my right to have a job, hold the position of power and earn my own money. Its pathetic that I still have to.


    ... is necessary because they have no other useful role in society than to be "provider".

    Thats not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    My God! If you truly believe that, you are sooo sexist!! No - I don't believe you do belive it truly. You are making a point by exaggeration, surely.

    That's ok then.
    You do have other uses.

    Everybody knows that men are better cooks. And while is possible without you, its not nearly as fun. I do need someone to . And some of you are actually nice to look at

    Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
    I am aware of many women who "control the purse strings" - it probably divides up into equal numbers. (Even wifey
    quizzes me on what I've used my credit card for sometimes ...)
    How people choose to negotiate their relationship between their four walls - I couldn't care less.


    But when you say that women shouldn't work - to make room for someone less capable - thats sexist bullshit. It wakes my inner Domme, . Men and women are entitled to the same (job) opportunities and may the best candidate win.
    When I'm good I'm very, very good, but when I'm bad, I'm better.

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