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    Basically, our Founding Fathers believed that rights come from God...no matter what religion you follow. Think of this:

    If you allow men to grant rights, slaves will ALWAYS be a part of life. Natures law does not create slavery and Natures God abhors it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelish View Post
    Natures law does not create slavery and Natures God abhors it.
    Sorry, steelish, but I have to disagree. Virtually EVERY culture ever has had one form of slavery or another. And virtually EVERY religion has condoned it.
    Leviticus 25:44 "Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids."
    Leviticus 25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
    Leviticus 25:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

    There are others.

    Quran 24:58 "O ye who believe! Let your slaves, and those of you who have not come to puberty, ask leave of you at three times (before they come into your presence)."

    It was not the churches who freed the slaves in America, but MEN and WOMEN! Using the LAWS of men. Most churches in the US fought against the repeal of slavery, just as they fought against equal rights for Blacks and for women, just as they fight now against equal rights for gays. And as they have done in the past, when those rights are eventually granted the church leaders will beat their chests and loudly proclaim that it was GOD'S will that those rights be granted. Hypocrites!

    Also, speaking of nature, there are some (at least one, anyway) species of ants which take other ants as slaves and force them to work. Nature is harsh and unforgiving.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    "Most churches in the US fought against the repeal of slavery,"

    The how do you reconcile that by the time of the Civil War all of the North had eliminated slavery?

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