U.s. Founding fathers

[tedteague]

nope the actual leaders of the Revolution, John Adams especially
http://www.alternet.org/media/148518..._/?page=entire

[Thorne]

Interesting article, tedteague. I have to admit, I wasn't aware of how fun-loving the pre-Revolution populace was.

Just goes to show, though. The politicians have ALWAYS been more interested in controlling other people's personal lives. I especially liked, "Though the Founders did their share of the drinking in early America, in public they attacked the practice during and after the Revolution." Another case of "Do as I say, not as I do!"

[steelish]

nope the actual leaders of the Revolution, John Adams especially
http://www.alternet.org/media/148518..._/?page=entire

So your source of great wisdom on the founding fathers comes from the Huffington Post? Huh.

Try reading something written by an expert on the Founding Fathers. I know what you will say...biased opinion. BUT, David Barton became who he was (was shaped by what he found out) when he studied the founding fathers and began to collect original writings.

[Lion]

So your source of great wisdom on the founding fathers comes from the Huffington Post? Huh.

Try reading something written by an expert on the Founding Fathers. I know what you will say...biased opinion. BUT, David Barton became who he was (was shaped by what he found out) when he studied the founding fathers and began to collect original writings.

Huffington Post is clearly liberal. David Barton is an evangelical Christian minister who is a Texas Republican Politician. I imagine he is well versed in American history, but with his political activism, he clearly has a biased viewpoint. It seems less academic and more political in nature.

As for the 'expert' article: The quotes are sourced from secondary articles. As in there is no direct proof that the quotes are authentic or fabrications that have come about over the last 200 plus years. A simple google search for "David Barton Christian Nation" will show a lot of links that claim Barton has no real evidence of the quotes.

I don't see what's wrong with reading the Huffington Post for information about the founding fathers. Or watching Fox News for information on the economy, Obama's presidency, War, etc.

[steelish]

I don't see what's wrong with reading the Huffington Post for information about the founding fathers. Or watching Fox News for information on the economy, Obama's presidency, War, etc.

Nor do I. But then, I DON'T agree with it being the only source of information on a subject. I do not rely solely upon David Barton or Fox News or CNN or NBC or CBS or the local papers or even a single internet source. I read/explore a variety of sources and reach my own conclusions based upon my research.

[tedteague]

what you posted was article talking about how chriistian the founding fathers were. that goes right in line with the article talking about how they forced chrisitan cirtues and values on the population

[DuncanONeil]

what you posted was article talking about how chriistian the founding fathers were. that goes right in line with the article talking about how they forced chrisitan cirtues and values on the population

Only they did not FORCE values of a specific religion.

[tedteague]

i posted evidence to the contrary a few days ago

[DuncanONeil]

i posted evidence to the contrary a few days ago

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[tedteague]

the link i posted? I'll post it again
http://www.alternet.org/media/148518..._/?page=entire

[tedteague]

and it's not an article that the Huffington Post wrote itself. It was taken from an excerpt of a book by historian Thaddeus Russell