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    Nice to know that you speak for the whole rest of the world Ian....smh lol.

    Some people see the leak as good journalism, some see it as treason.

    Ass-ange...isnt an American Citizen is he? So no treason charge right?. Spying maby but not treason. The people who gave him the information to leak now...they may be a different story. What he did or didnt do in sweden I leve to the swedes.

    Why do people pick on America? First thing that cums to my mind is what Mommy used to tell me to explain why some children pick on other children, and incedentally why some doms and subs pick on each other as well sometimes. Jealousy is soooo unbecoming, but it is also very common when there is any kind of disparity real or imagined between any individuals or set of groups in any social/cultural exchange or interaction.

    PS: And the ones who are the most jealous will be the ones who bitch the loudest btw.

    As for Afganistan comparing to Vietnam:

    Both conflicts are televised.

    Both conflicts were being fought primaraly over ideological differences between two parties as opposed to monetary or territorial gain.

    Both confilicts saw America support what obviously could be called "puppet governmentss" or figurheads with no real power in governemnt at various times throughout the conflict.

    The general public in America has become generally disullusioned with both conflicts due to their lengths.

    Both conflicts involved the use of force within the boarders of their nieghboring countires outside of the theater of opperations and high levels of indegionous casualities compared to our own.

    Both comficts take place in enviroments that are considered to be extreme.

    In both conflicts it is allmost next to impossible to distinguish between enemy combatants and "law abiding civilians" until actual shooting starts.

    Civilians have been used by the enemy in both conflicts as shields by the indegenous forces.

    I could go on and on and on...but that would turn this from a little sidebar into a seperate thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    Some people see the leak as good journalism, some see it as treason.
    Leaking those documents might be good or it might not, it might be the right thing to do or not, but it certainly isn't journalism. It's ... well, just publishing unconfirmed raw data. Journalism should be different.

    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    Why do people pick on America?
    I know it's hard to know about that, given the American media's focus on internal affairs and the American habit of more or less not caring about the rest of the world, with the exception of a few, but let me reassure you: Everybody else gets picked on too. And America is meddling almost everywhere, so you should expect flak from almost everywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    Both conflicts were being fought primaraly over ideological differences between two parties as opposed to monetary or territorial gain.
    I think you guys still got it wrong: For the Vietnamese it was a nationalist struggle. A war for independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
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    Why do people pick on America?
    What is meant here by 'pick on'???

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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post


    Why do people pick on America?
    I wouldn't call it picking. Picking on someone is when they are being abused for simply existing. US on the other hand doesn't simply exist. More then any other country in the world today, US has it's head in a lot of foreign issues. It's not all bad, some of US's work is quite good.

    But then there are dark spots that people aren't willing to let go. Think 9/11 for them, and you get their mind set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion View Post
    I wouldn't call it picking. Picking on someone is when they are being abused for simply existing.
    That is what I thought..?

    US on the other hand doesn't simply exist. More then any other country in the world today, US has it's head in a lot of foreign issues. It's not all bad, some of US's work is quite good.
    No country simply exists - every country has it involvment to a smaller or larger extent, good and bad. US is a very big country, therefore with lots of involvment, good and bad, and therefore with lots of comments. To complain about that is illogical.

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