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    I also think it is really good for people just starting out to get this information so they are not taken advantage of. I don't know if you can impress self respect and ability to stand up for yourself on some people, but it is worthwhile to try.

    At the same time, for my own life I don't see rights really applying. I have a lot of self respect, self determination, and extreme trust in my Master, not from a good fantasy life but from years of knowing him.


    #1 No, #2 No # 3 No

    #4 yes I agree with this. You're not going to get rid of emotions by pretending you don't have them.

    #5 express concerns, yes, refuse, no

    #6 no

    #7 no one has the right to be happy all the time. Pursuit of happiness, yes, actual happiness, only if you're lucky


    #8 only if he asks for it

    # 9 and 10 I don't even know what to say about that, except "if you're lucky" again

    #11 yes he wants me to be healthy, but a right? no

    #12 Yes, absolutely, have safe sex! I'm not going to say anything against that. I've had enough babies. Although, honestly, if he said "I really want another" I probably would agree. But he won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksst View Post


    #5 express concerns, yes, refuse, no

    #6 no
    But ksst, that is the parameters agreed upon by you and your Master. You have an established relationship with a silod foundation of love and trust. Many here are not in the same position.

    Imagine the heartache and pain if we take away the 'Consentual' from Safe, Sane and Consentual'. (The basic meaning of this word being that I have the right to say No and be respected for it)
    If we tell submissives they cannot say NO. Or say that they should not express it if they are opposed to something happening during play!
    Total power exchange is only ONE of the options available to people. For many this is not their kink or their spesific choice.
    But, in a Master/slave relationship where limits have been discussed and communication and trust are well-established, consentual non-consent is understandable.

    In my opinion the same applies to respect.

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