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    Quote Originally Posted by IAN 2411 View Post
    Do we need religion now to behave? No, it should be after all this time installed in us to abide by the same moral code.
    Do you mean the moral code of the 10 commandments?

    However because we are all born with equal amounts of good and evil, it depends on how strong our minds and abilities are to make one of these senses dominant and push aside the other. Most people get it right, but there will always be a small percentage that are weak and travel the wrong path.

    Each person has his/her own code of honour, whether right or wrong but they all differ in some minute way.
    Are we really born with evil and good? But what is that exactly? And how does that get into our genes?

    Maybe one problem is that in the absense of religious codes or any other commonly accepted codes many people go astray and do weird stuff, like killing other people, or wrecking the planet.

    I believe that regions can agree perfectly well on codes and do by and large abide by them, but the problem arises because the world is so small now, and power is so concentrated. People in power hardly ever abide by any codes. (That is one reason I could never be a soldier, even if I had what it took, I would fear to make myself a tool for untrustworthy trouble makers.)

    No i think that has to wrong in my opinion, because survival is in our DNA. If needed, we can revert back to the animal in us and live of the land. There are only the weak, lazy and infirmed that might have problems surviving in a hostile environment. We all want to live to see the sun coming up the next day.
    Be well IAN 2411
    To be sure survival is in our genes, but we simply no longer know how to live off the land. It does take skill and knowledge. Without electricity, heating, tools, very few people would know what to do. How many can farm? How many can hunt with weapons made off the land directly? How many people know what you can or cannot eat of what you may find?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    Do you mean the moral code of the 10 commandments?
    No, the moral Code of Hammurabi, from which the 10 commandments derive. Or maybe just the basic moral code of people: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. It doesn't take a god to know what's right.

    Maybe one problem is that in the absense of religious codes or any other commonly accepted codes many people go astray and do weird stuff, like killing other people, or wrecking the planet.
    Do you really think religious codes change that? Look at the Inquisition, the mess of the Middle East, Ireland, 9/11, or pedophile priests/rabbis/preachers. I'm not saying religions CAUSE all of these things, but they don't seem to do anything to prevent them, either. If you think it's okay to kill someone because God told you to, you belong in an asylum, not a church.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    No, the moral Code of Hammurabi, from which the 10 commandments derive. Or maybe just the basic moral code of people: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. It doesn't take a god to know what's right.
    It isn't simple, is it? People do different things all over the world, and they all think they are doing the right thing!

    Do you really think religious codes change that?
    No. I just think that, since we live the way we do, we need some sort of codes. We do not have the natural behaviour of small tight communities any more, so we need something. I am not talking religious codes, just codes. Rather than greed and violence and total lack of respect for others.

    Look at the Inquisition, the mess of the Middle East, Ireland, 9/11, or pedophile priests/rabbis/preachers. I'm not saying religions CAUSE all of these things, but they don't seem to do anything to prevent them, either. If you think it's okay to kill someone because God told you to, you belong in an asylum, not a church.
    You are preaching to the converted ;-))

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