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    Quote Originally Posted by Punish_her View Post
    Just think for a second 5 men sitting around on national television laughing about a man cutting off his wife's clitoris and breasts and throwing them in the garbage disposal. The only place that would ever happen is afghanistan.
    While I have to agree that those women laughing over that man getting his penis cut off is in very bad taste, and reflects badly on those women, the comparison you mention is not anywhere near the same thing.

    Why did that woman cut off his penis? My guess would be that he beat her up and raped her one too many times, just because he could, and she'd had enough. I say, good for her. He deserved it.

    Now let's look at your hypothetical case in Afghanistan: What would cause that to happen? Well, maybe it was a father who decided to disfigure his 14 year old daughter because she didn't want to be forced into marriage with the 70 year old Imam. Or maybe it was the abusive husband who was angry when his wife asked him to stop beating her. Or maybe it was the prison official who felt that she didn't scream loud enough when his men raped her. Yeah, I can see a bunch of Taliban assholes sitting around the fire laughing about it. Funny thing, though, I can see you there just as easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    Why did that woman cut off his penis? My guess would be that he beat her up and raped her one too many times, just because he could, and she'd had enough. I say, good for her. He deserved it.
    Interesting - your "guess" is that he was the abusive one in the relationship, even though he's the one who ended up mutilated with life-threatening injuries - why? What information do you have, besides the victim's gender and the nature of the terrible injuries inflicted by the spouse? Look back in the thread ... note that statistically, from that study, women are as likely as men to be guilty, just much less likely to get caught.

    Can you actually give us any excuse for your glib "he deserved it", besides prejudice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by js207 View Post
    Can you actually give us any excuse for your glib "he deserved it", besides prejudice?
    I never said "he deserved it", merely postulated it as a likely scenario. Similar to the Lorena Bobbitt case, I'm speculating that it may have been the result of continuous abuse by the husband. I didn't bother looking up the case, though. If I was wrong and the woman was the abuser, I apologize.

    women are as likely as men to be guilty, just much less likely to get caught.
    I will grant you that men are much less likely to report such abuse, generally as a matter of pride I would think. But women who do report being abused aren't guaranteed to get protection, either. I know of one woman who called the police on her abusive husband only to have the responding officer stand out in the yard talking and joking with the husband, then driving off, telling him not to do it any more, without even talking to her!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    I never said "he deserved it", merely postulated it as a likely scenario. Similar to the Lorena Bobbitt case, I'm speculating that it may have been the result of continuous abuse by the husband. I didn't bother looking up the case, though. If I was wrong and the woman was the abuser, I apologise.
    That's better - it sounded earlier very much as if you had leapt to precisely that conclusion. Why the speculation in the first place? If a woman had been horribly mutilated, would you have been suggesting it was her fault?

    I will grant you that men are much less likely to report such abuse, generally as a matter of pride I would think. But women who do report being abused aren't guaranteed to get protection, either. I know of one woman who called the police on her abusive husband only to have the responding officer stand out in the yard talking and joking with the husband, then driving off, telling him not to do it any more, without even talking to her!
    As noted earlier in the thread, there are far worse examples in the opposite direction. In how many such cases does the woman end up getting arrested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    While I have to agree that those women laughing over that man getting his penis cut off is in very bad taste, and reflects badly on those women, the comparison you mention is not anywhere near the same thing.

    Why did that woman cut off his penis? My guess would be that he beat her up and raped her one too many times, just because he could, and she'd had enough. I say, good for her. He deserved it.

    Now let's look at your hypothetical case in Afghanistan: What would cause that to happen? Well, maybe it was a father who decided to disfigure his 14 year old daughter because she didn't want to be forced into marriage with the 70 year old Imam. Or maybe it was the abusive husband who was angry when his wife asked him to stop beating her. Or maybe it was the prison official who felt that she didn't scream loud enough when his men raped her. Yeah, I can see a bunch of Taliban assholes sitting around the fire laughing about it. Funny thing, though, I can see you there just as easily.
    biggest load of bullshit i ever heard.
    he asked for a divorce

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