Male discrimination?

[thir]

[I][B]Thanks thir!

And I agree that we "shouldn't" have too carry a gun to feel safe.

All that aside....whats wrong with sexual segregation?

Segregation means forcibly seperating people, yes? No, I think people have a right to choose.

We all know that making everything completely co-ed is a non starter... right?

Co-ed??

[denuseri]

Segregation means forcibly seperating people, yes? No, I think people have a right to choose.



Co-ed??

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation

Force isn't required at all...we already for the most part in one way or another live in a gender stratified-sexually segregated society.

IE: separate locker rooms, bathing facilities and bathrooms in most public places.

The trend appears to be one of slowly becoming more and more de-segragated however. Not too long ago men and women sat on opposite sides of the Church for instance...in some societies they didn't eat meals at the same time or in the same room. In ancient Greece women were not even allowed to view any of the male events at the Olympic games.

Co-ed simply means shared...like Co-ed dorms where males and females live next too each other or in some cases even share a room.

[Punish_her]

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation

Force isn't required at all...we already for the most part in one way or another live in a gender stratified-sexually segregated society.

IE: separate locker rooms, bathing facilities and bathrooms in most public places.

The trend appears to be one of slowly becoming more and more de-segragated however. Not too long ago men and women sat on opposite sides of the Church for instance...in some societies they didn't eat meals at the same time or in the same room. In ancient Greece women were not even allowed to view any of the male events at the Olympic games.

Co-ed simply means shared...like Co-ed dorms where males and females live next too each other or in some cases even share a room.

males and females do share rooms at more liberal colleges. I had a friend who lived with 3 girls in college

also, the first olympics were in the nude, maybe the athletes got a bit shy
just imagine the five man bobsled

[Thorne]

also, the first olympics were in the nude, maybe the athletes got a bit shy
just imagine the five man bobsled

Considering that the bobsled is done in winter, on a frozen course, with the icy breeze from your speed causing every exposed nerve to shrivel, I don't think it would have been a problem. (Of course, they didn't HAVE bobsleds then, OR Winter Olympics.)

[Punish_her]

Considering that the bobsled is done in winter, on a frozen course, with the icy breeze from your speed causing every exposed nerve to shrivel, I don't think it would have been a problem. (Of course, they didn't HAVE bobsleds then, OR Winter Olympics.)

they did it "cool runnings style," more of a go kart, and greece has a shit ton of hills!

[lucy]

The trend appears to be one of slowly becoming more and more de-segragated however.

Not so sure about that. Proposing a return back to gender-segregated schools is still considered a sacrilege around here, but there are more and more articles and studies being published about the topic.
All, or at least most, of those studies show that nobody profits from coeducation. Not the boys, and certainly not the girls, for whose benefit coeducation first was demanded.

[Thorne]

All, or at least most, of those studies show that nobody profits from coeducation. Not the boys, and certainly not the girls, for whose benefit coeducation first was demanded.

The problem is that going to separate schools brings back the old problem of "separate but equal", which was anything but equal! I went to a co-ed high school while my brothers went to boys only high schools. I can't see any difference in the quality of education, nor did I ever notice any difficulty on my part related to being in a class with girls. I'd like to see who's doing these studies, and how comprehensive they are, before I say whether they were good or bad.

[Punish_her]

The problem is that going to separate schools brings back the old problem of "separate but equal", which was anything but equal! I went to a co-ed high school while my brothers went to boys only high schools. I can't see any difference in the quality of education, nor did I ever notice any difficulty on my part related to being in a class with girls. I'd like to see who's doing these studies, and how comprehensive they are, before I say whether they were good or bad.

I would say that's because the type of education was still the same.
current education in the US is based on the Prussian system: one person dictating to a larger group of students, standardized tests, and so on.
studies typically show that boys learn better in small groups that are competitive
there'sno reason that it wouldn't "seperate, but equal" and be different. In an ideal environment, girls would not be as successful in a boys class, as boys are not as successful in a girls class, bt both classes maximize the ahcievement of the individual sexes

[thir]

The problem is that going to separate schools brings back the old problem of "separate but equal", which was anything but equal! I went to a co-ed high school while my brothers went to boys only high schools. I can't see any difference in the quality of education, nor did I ever notice any difficulty on my part related to being in a class with girls. I'd like to see who's doing these studies, and how comprehensive they are, before I say whether they were good or bad.

So would I. And there is also the question of socialization to be considered.

[thir]

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ok, thanks