Now this i find disturbing!!!!

[RickBulow74]

For those of you who voted for Obama. Please take a good look at this entry and also the video which accompanies it.

http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2008/11...t-elected.html

HOW OBAMA GOT ELECTED
By Neal Boortz @ November 19, 2008 8:26 AM Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBacks (0)
Now that the election is over, this report by John Ziegler is making some waves. Maybe because it exposes some of the Obamamania. Also because it shows how the lamestream media was in the tank for Barack Obama in this election. And also because it demonstrates the fruits of our government education system.

Now I really don't care what else you do today .. so long as you don't abuse any small animals .. but please watch this video. On Election Day some Obama voters were chosen by the producers of an upcoming documentary "How Obama Got Elected." These voters represented a cross-section: young and old, black and white, male and female. They were chosen based on their verbal abilities and willingness to express their feelings to a large audience. Listen to these people. I promise you, you will be entertained.

Certainly it was hard to judge the true nature of Obama supporters based on the random ones selected for this video ... So the Zogby people were commissioned to conduct a telephone poll to ask a greater number of Obama supporters the very same questions asked of the people in the video. Oh and one other thing to keep in mind. The people were given multiple choice answers to these questions. Even with multiple choices, here were some of the results.

94% of Obama voters correctly identified Sarah Palin as the candidate with a pregnant teenage daughter.
86% of Obama voters identified Palin as the candidate who spent $150,000 on a campaign wardrobe.
86.9 % of Obama voters though that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though the quote actually came from Saturday Night Live.
Now for some news about the candidate they were supporting ....

57.4% of Obama voters could not correctly say which party controls congress.
82.6% of Obama voters could not correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot
88.4% of Obama voters could not correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket
56.1% of Obama voters didn't know that Obama started his political career at the home of Bill Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist.
Now you have a measure, for good or bad, of some of the voters who went to the polls on Election Day awash in Obamamania. Do some of you now think that there are people voting who shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember, there is no constitutional right to vote in a presidential election. Shouldn't we be weeding some of these people off the voting rolls?

Also, here's an interview with John Ziegler by Nate Silver. Oh my is it full of bad words!

VERY disturbing news indeed!

[mkemse]

I appriciate the post, but there could very well be a many bad McCain/Palin supporters as there are Obama, you do not hear aboutthe others ince McCain did not win,
But IN ANY great of supporters you will alwways find bad peole

Like the lady in Michigan who refused to give Halloween Candy to any Democrats or those that supported Obama

[DesertDom]

Honestly, is this any surprise? Uninformed voters makng a difference in an election? No way, it could not happen here.

Obamas campaign staff did a masterful job in manipulating uninformed voters, popular opinion and views at an emotional level in his favor. When Bushs handlers did it, it was called Rovian tactics, not a word said about it this time, odd, isn't it?

Bill Clinton campaigned in 1992 on a platform of change, it worked for him also. Time will tell what obama's change will turn out to be. He seems to be filling his staff out with former Clinton people, not a good sign.

[RickBulow74]

The point is that McCain lost and this is a documentary on how Barack Obama got elected. The video and post is about those who voted for Obama. I would imagine if McCain were elected there might be something like this. But the point is this is a crossmatch of people who voted for Obama.

[mkemse]

The point is that McCain lost and this is a documentary on how Barack Obama got elected. The video and post is about those who voted for Obama. I would imagine if McCain were elected there might be something like this. But the point is this is a crossmatch of people who voted for Obama.

Ok, but not ALL his supporters where like this, i am fiarly sure that not all of the 52% of those who voted for Obama did so because of this
but this is only my opinion

[mkemse]

I still feel befire we all Rush To Judgement, Give Obma a chance to prove himself, then f he fails yes we critise him and point out and debate his failures, but he still has a few weeks til he even takes office, give him a chance to show what he can do, will do ect
Or can't do and won't do before we rip him apart, e are finiding him gulity beore the trial so to speak
Acorn was a joke, they had no reason to do what they did but the reality is of 52% who voted for him, i hardly believe that much of a majority over 50% was influced over actions like that, aain just my opion,
But let's see what he does before we condemn him

[RickBulow74]

Ok, but not ALL his supporters where like this, i am fiarly sure that not all of the 52% of those who voted for Obama did so because of this
but this is only my opinion

I still feel befire we all Rush To Judgement, Give Obma a chance to prove himself, then f he fails yes we critise him and point out and debate his failures, but he still has a few weeks til he even takes office, give him a chance to show what he can do, will do ect
Or can't do and won't do before we rip him apart, e are finiding him gulity beore the trial so to speak
Acorn was a joke, they had no reason to do what they did but the reality is of 52% who voted for him, i hardly believe that much of a majority over 50% was influced over actions like that, aain just my opion,
But let's see what he does before we condemn him

I am not condemning him. I am proud that I voted for McCain. HOWEVER, what I am saying is that there are some voters who do not know the facts about the government. In fact, there was one question which asked who was in control of the government and the majority said the Republicans did, as well as those who had no clue who were in Congress. What does that tell you about those who voted?

[DuncanONeil]

He is not doing very well yet! He is losing support. And has yet to stop campaigning!

I still feel befire we all Rush To Judgement, Give Obma a chance to prove himself, then f he fails yes we critise him and point out and debate his failures, but he still has a few weeks til he even takes office, give him a chance to show what he can do, will do ect
Or can't do and won't do before we rip him apart, e are finiding him gulity beore the trial so to speak
Acorn was a joke, they had no reason to do what they did but the reality is of 52% who voted for him, i hardly believe that much of a majority over 50% was influced over actions like that, aain just my opion,
But let's see what he does before we condemn him

[mkemse]

Actual had it not been for Sarah Palin i would have voted for McvCasin ,but I have a real issue when someone who would be 2nd in Command in this Country thinksthat Africa is a NATION and not a Continent, i can't imgine how shewouls have handled other critical issue

buti do not want ot hijack this thread, just wanted to point that out

Let's see wha happens 52% of th voting public know why they voted for Obamam or is not the entie 52% enoughthat ther issues surroundig the way votes wre obtained becomes mute

[DuncanONeil]

And Obama, the man now in charge thought there we 54 states!

Actual had it not been for Sarah Palin i would have voted for McvCasin ,but I have a real issue when someone who would be 2nd in Command in this Country thinksthat Africa is a NATION and not a Continent, i can't imgine how shewouls have handled other critical issue

buti do not want ot hijack this thread, just wanted to point that out

Let's see wha happens 52% of th voting public know why they voted for Obamam or is not the entie 52% enoughthat ther issues surroundig the way votes wre obtained becomes mute

[mkemse]

Obama had the hindsight and ability to raise money and text message ect and found way to do things that wer never done before ot gather support and money, kudo's to him for using the technology available you also can't hold him responisble forthe action of others
Even the Indiana Supreme Court rules that Acorn could continue every state where Acorn was in that States Suprmem Court ruled that corn was not doing anything wrong some even went to were these epole were andsaid "Let them do their jobs" and somewere Republican judges

[denuseri]

Just proves the ole Machieavellian principle that the mob can be lead around like sheep all too easily by a demogouge with a flare for propoganda.

[Diablo]

What is actually sad is that you think that one is any less evil than the other. That any of them are less self serving than the other.

Right wing propaganda is somehow better than left? Sheep come in both colors.

[denuseri]

Oh I never said that the Republicans didn't have an equal share of evil.

If you will note my statement was politically nuteral as to party affiliation.

[RickBulow74]

Like I said, I am sure there are these things that come out if McCain would have won as well. This is not why I posted it.

My reason for posting it is to demonstrate that they did not know who is in control of the Congress or even who was in Congress, yet they did know who can see Russia from their house (even though it was said on SNL) and who paid an exorbitant amount for clothing.

My problem is that people worry about the celebrities and not about things which really matter like the issues and who represents them.

[mkemse]

Like I said, I am sure there are these things that come out if McCain would have won as well. This is not why I posted it.

My reason for posting it is to demonstrate that they did not know who is in control of the Congress or even who was in Congress, yet they did know who can see Russia from their house (even though it was said on SNL) and who paid an exorbitant amount for clothing.

My problem is that people worry about the celebrities and not about things which really matter like the issues and who represents them.

True but in a Poll taken right after the election most people felt that McCain was to negative and unlike Obama did NOT discuss the issues or his stanceon most, he did it from time to time but he seemed to spend more time on Bashing Obama then disussing the issues that drovethie election
Obama was always talking about what he planned to do, i do not want to hijack thisthread withthat thmeme but Obamam during the campigining at least always disussedtheissue and his plans, McCain seemed more intrested in Bashing his Opendnet, if for no other reason he had no plans to handle the issues at large, we know what he planned to do with Iraq, wait til wewin he gave over views of what he would lie to see but he neevr realy offered solutions he seemed only to enlighten voters by thelling us hesee's this or not, so did everyone what where specific plans in dealing withi issues

but back to the thread i so not want to hijack it

[Thorne]

I wouldn't put too much faith in such polls. In the first place, people lie. They will often try to say what they believe the poll taker wants to hear.

In the second place, polls can be tilted to one side or the other simply by the phrasing of the questions.

In the third place, and this one is strictly my opinion, the people who are most willing to take such polls tend to be the people with less education and, perhaps, intelligence. Personally, I don't respond to these kinds of polls, and many of the people I know don't either. Therefore, the results don't reflect the true measure of the population. Just the measure of those silly enough to answer the polls!

[mkemse]

I wouldn't put too much faith in such polls. In the first place, people lie. They will often try to say what they believe the poll taker wants to hear.

In the second place, polls can be tilted to one side or the other simply by the phrasing of the questions.

In the third place, and this one is strictly my opinion, the people who are most willing to take such polls tend to be the people with less education and, perhaps, intelligence. Personally, I don't respond to these kinds of polls, and many of the people I know don't either. Therefore, the results don't reflect the true measure of the population. Just the measure of those silly enough to answer the polls!

True just wanted to add it in anyway

People Lie?? That's a new one on me LOL!!!

[wmrs2]

True but in a Poll taken right after the election most people felt that McCain was to negative and unlike Obama did NOT discuss the issues or his stanceon most, he did it from time to time but he seemed to spend more time on Bashing Obama then disussing the issues that drovethie election
Obama was always talking about what he planned to do, i do not want to hijack thisthread withthat thmeme but Obamam during the campigining at least always disussedtheissue and his plans, McCain seemed more intrested in Bashing his Opendnet, if for no other reason he had no plans to handle the issues at large, we know what he planned to do with Iraq, wait til wewin he gave over views of what he would lie to see but he neevr realy offered solutions he seemed only to enlighten voters by thelling us hesee's this or not, so did everyone what where specific plans in dealing withi issues

but back to the thread i so not want to hijack it

f
You do admit then that Bush won the war in Iraq?

[wmrs2]

Like I said, I am sure there are these things that come out if McCain would have won as well. This is not why I posted it.

My reason for posting it is to demonstrate that they did not know who is in control of the Congress or even who was in Congress, yet they did know who can see Russia from their house (even though it was said on SNL) and who paid an exorbitant amount for clothing.

My problem is that people worry about the celebrities and not about things which really matter like the issues and who represents them.

That being true, why did you bring up seeing Russia from their house and the exorbitant amount for clothing? You speak with liberal mouth and tongue in---I don't know where. Who do you think is paying attention to celebrities status here?

[DuncanONeil]

Someone was kind enough to post the real quote. She never said from her house. Only that Russia can be seen from "land" in Alaska.
Does anybody here even really know where Russia is?

That being true, why did you bring up seeing Russia from their house and the exorbitant amount for clothing? You speak with liberal mouth and tongue in---I don't know where. Who do you think is paying attention to celebrities status here?

[Dr_BuzzCzar]

"56.1% of Obama voters didn't know that Obama started his political career at the home of Bill Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist". That actually surprised me as this charge was on tv, radio, newspapers, blogs etc. Maybe they believe that Obama didn't know who Ayers was in 1995. I don't know.

" 86.9 % of Obama voters though that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though the quote actually came from Saturday Night Live."

CHARLES GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

SARAH PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.

Also, the Fox morning program, was the first I saw that gave the "You can see Russia from Alaska" spiel as an attribute of Gov Palin's. I think its very understandable that some people easily confused the specific spot from where Russia can be seen..The important part is that absurd statement was put forth as foreign policy knowledge.

"57.4% of Obama voters could not correctly say which party controls congress."
According to the National Election Survey done after every national election, in 2002 72% of all voters didn't know who controlled congress and 56% of all voters didn't know in 2004. I haven't seen the 2008 results yet but that 57.4% isn't a surprising number for all voters.

82.6% of Obama voters could not correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot

You mean the legal challenges to petitions that were found to be correct? Nothing more than careful negative wording by Boortz, et al.

88.4% of Obama voters could not correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket
He said no such thing. In an interview with the SF Chronicle (which is where this got started)he said "...What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them."
Clearly meaning that greenhouse gas fines of current coal technology would bankrupt a company but if the technology is there we should pursue it.

[mkemse]

The Bill Ayers issue is simple, Barack was 8 years old at that time, that was never mentioned

[DuncanONeil]

The Bill Ayers issue is simple, Barack was 8 years old at that time, that was never mentioned

Obama was eight years old while sitting on a board with Ayers? Obama was eight years old while planning his first public politcal campaigns in Ayers house?

I think not!
And yes it does matter. Ayers is proud of what he did thinks he did not do enough and still has the same desires he did then!

[damyanti]

So Democrats have finally learned that you cant talk to these people intelectually and have taken a lesson out of a Republican book about how you win these things? MUHAHA....turnabout is fair play.

It was Lee Atwater who invented or improved upon many of the techniques of modern electoral politics, including promulgating unflattering rumors and attempting to drive up opponents' negative poll numbers with the aggressive use of opposition research....thats putting it politely that he was arguably the most evil and unethical shmuck of modern politics. He was also disgustingly successful in delivering victory for his Republican candidates. He was also a political mentor and close friend of Karl Rove.

The original report/poll is faulty and staged (questions about Obama that people didnt know are serious matters - I wont go into the debate that his "facts" are deliberately skewed - while questions about Palin are silly stuff, why didnt he ask people how much they know about Palins past "credentials"...some comparison) and the sentiment behind this thread fake and contrived.

What is your point...that a huge percentage of American voters are stupid, uneducated, ill informed? True....but then it all depends on your perspective. I did a research on the theme "the correlation between political orientation and intelligence"....short conclusion from several independent studies, apart from a small group of fiscal conservatives Republican party has by large become a party of dumb people.

There is no denying the fact that news and media outlets have become superficial, sensationalist and dumbed down. But I disagree that the media were so much kinder to Obama and that they were covering some monstrous secrets for him.

I remember media behaving in the same way 8 years ago...when Bush won...because he was perfectly folksy for the media...when it was more fun to make fun of Gore...because they thought that voters were smarter than that and that they were going to vote for the smarter candidate anyway.

I think the media were trying simply not to repeat the mistake from 2000. If one candidate is dumber than the other, I hardly think its fair that the media reports that they are both equaly dumb.

The fact that we disagree which candidate is dumber...though luck...its called freedom of speech....something social conservatives, Republicans and Christian Fundamentalists have been trying to suffocate for years.

Is Obama infallible, is he so much different than all other politicians? Of course not....but he beats Palin by hundred miles in terms of intelligence, qualifications and honesty.

Why Obama won?

Because those people you find disturbing are still smart enough to know that they are worse off today because they bought into Republican propaganda 8 years ago, because for 8 years they have watched retarded person run the world and rather than admiting its mistakes, exposing the truth and punishing corrupted apparatchiks Republican party thought they could get away with it again. John McCain thought the same thing, and instead of denouncing the loonies he tried to win by playing to their lower urges.

He thought wrong. He lost because even God has had enough and has become so sickened and disgusted by people like Palin who speak his name in vain and with mendacity that He/She said enough is enough.

John McCain should have been elected president in 2000 and the world would have been a better place for it. Him running this year...was a case of too little, too late...and has left a very big stain on his legacy.

[Dr_BuzzCzar]

John McCain should have been elected president in 2000 and the world would have been a better place for it. Him running this year...was a case of too little, too late...and has left a very big stain on his legacy.

I strongly supported Sen McCain in 2000 and agree wholeheartedly with your conclusion about 2000 and the stain of 2008. Well said.

[mkemse]

So Democrats have finally learned that you cant talk to these people intelectually and have taken a lesson out of a Republican book about how you win these things? MUHAHA....turnabout is fair play.

It was Lee Atwater who invented or improved upon many of the techniques of modern electoral politics, including promulgating unflattering rumors and attempting to drive up opponents' negative poll numbers with the aggressive use of opposition research....thats putting it politely that he was arguably the most evil and unethical shmuck of modern politics. He was also disgustingly successful in delivering victory for his Republican candidates. He was also a political mentor and close friend of Karl Rove.

The original report/poll is faulty and staged (questions about Obama that people didnt know are serious matters - I wont go into the debate that his "facts" are deliberately skewed - while questions about Palin are silly stuff, why didnt he ask people how much they know about Palins past "credentials"...some comparison) and the sentiment behind this thread fake and contrived.

What is your point...that a huge percentage of American voters are stupid, uneducated, ill informed? True....but then it all depends on your perspective. I did a research on the theme "the correlation between political orientation and intelligence"....short conclusion from several independent studies, apart from a small group of fiscal conservatives Republican party has by large become a party of dumb people.

There is no denying the fact that news and media outlets have become superficial, sensationalist and dumbed down. But I disagree that the media were so much kinder to Obama and that they were covering some monstrous secrets for him.

I remember media behaving in the same way 8 years ago...when Bush won...because he was perfectly folksy for the media...when it was more fun to make fun of Gore...because they thought that voters were smarter than that and that they were going to vote for the smarter candidate anyway.

I think the media were trying simply not to repeat the mistake from 2000. If one candidate is dumber than the other, I hardly think its fair that the media reports that they are both equaly dumb.

The fact that we disagree which candidate is dumber...though luck...its called freedom of speech....something social conservatives, Republicans and Christian Fundamentalists have been trying to suffocate for years.

Is Obama infallible, is he so much different than all other politicians? Of course not....but he beats Palin by hundred miles in terms of intelligence, qualifications and honesty.

Why Obama won?

Because those people you find disturbing are still smart enough to know that they are worse off today because they bought into Republican propaganda 8 years ago, because for 8 years they have watched retarded person run the world and rather than admiting its mistakes, exposing the truth and punishing corrupted apparatchiks Republican party thought they could get away with it again. John McCain thought the same thing, and instead of denouncing the loonies he tried to win by playing to their lower urges.

He thought wrong. He lost because even God has had enough and has become so sickened and disgusted by people like Palin who speak his name in vain and with mendacity that He/She said enough is enough.

John McCain should have been elected president in 2000 and the world would have been a better place for it. Him running this year...was a case of too little, too late...and has left a very big stain on his legacy.

I would rather have had McCain then Bush

[MMI]

I'm interested in how Sarah Palin would have answered all those questions.

[mkemse]

I'm interested in how Sarah Palin would have answered all those questions.

Have Katie Couric ask her

[Wiscoman]

Have Katie Couric ask her

I'm pretty sure she just has an index card she pulls random answers off of:

"You betcha!"
"Putin!"
"Moose chili..."
"Jesus..."
"Darn tootin'!"
"Terr'ists!"
"Socialism!"
"Death panels!"
"For Pete's sake!"
"Snow machines..."
"Boy howdy!"
"I quit."