Who Would You Like To See Win In 2008

[mkemse]

Yes, it is a bit early, but with the elections just being completed, and 2008 elections suddenly abuzz as a result of them, who would you like to see run for and win the White House in 2008
Not what Party, but what Person, do you believe would make a great next President??

[vampyres{ID}]

Michael Badnarik (Hope he runs again, Ill vote for him again)

[mkemse]

Thanks for your reply

[tazzinnc]

Honestly.. ME.. At this point I am the only person I trust who honsetly wants to cut the budget and get rid of pork and get rid of all those wastfull government agencies, and get the ones that actually do GOOD to work better. I'm the only one I trust that trully wants real tax reform (www.fairtax.org), That doesn't think government has any authority in the constitution to force people into a government retirement plan that is totally illegal if you tried to set it up yourself (Social security in current form), and I'm the only one i trust that thinks the best government is the one that is out of the way, has very little power.
So how do I form that exploratory committee ?
I wouldn't be the first kinky republican fisical tight wad to be in the white house.

[mkemse]

Tazzinnc,

thanks for your reply, a kinky repbilican is fine, as Jay Leno said "A Kinky one is fine as I have been unable to frind a Stright Republican in years" thisi s his view not mine

[Sahaqiel]

Right now I'm wondering about who'll make the best candidate.

Hmmm... Obama, perhaps? He's definitely likeable enough(in my opinion), and I think the democrats need someone who can clearly define what their party stands for.

I also really like John Edwards, and would love for him to at least try for the candidacy, but that isn't likely to happen. (Did anyone see him on the Daily Show? Did he mention that at all?)

Hillary... No comment.

On the republican side, if I had to vote for one it would be Rudy Giuliani, as he seems progressive enough socially and moderate enough for everything else. He could very well make a damn fine president--but he doesn't have a chance in hell.

McCain... I used to respect him a good deal, but the whole torture compromise undermined all that in an instant. Totally untrustworthy, in my opinion.

Now please allow me to ask a question(s) of my own. Why the hell are we talking about this two years before the election? I mean, the Dems are taking congress in January, but all I see when I watch the news is endless speculation about '08, and the occasional story on Iraq. What ever happened to health care and social security? The No Child Left a Dime Act is set to expire soon, is it not?

My apologies if I'm ranting(which I most certainly am), but I can only handle so much before I snap . This thread seemed an appropriate venting place.

-Sahaqiel

[mkemse]

Sahaqiel,

The reason I made the post is even thou the mid terms just finished, there has been alot of Buzz on all the news shows already about who would run on each side in 2008, that was the only reason, plus the geneneral election is 1 1/2 years off and this is America,
Hey they are already talking about who will host the 2016 Olympics LOL!! and that is 10 years off

[Sahaqiel]

Oops... Sorry, mkemse, I didn't mean to sound like a I was snapping at you. Nah, I was snapping at the system. Now that I think about it, this thread's not all that uncalled for. Instead of repetitive "will s/he run" speculations you're asking for personal opinion. My bad.

So, to acually answer the intial question, I personally would like to see Al Gore take the presidency. He's brilliant, charismatic(now that he no longer acts like he's got a stick up his ass), and puts forth new ideas for relevant causes(something we sorely need in Washington).

-Sahaqiel

[Guest 91108]

if the demos have both houses i'd have to say a Rep. in the big chair.
make it harder and balanced to get something done.

[mkemse]

Sahaqiel,
I did not precieve your repy as "screaming at me" intersstingly enough, I have talked to alot of people who do not want the Dem in charge, I told them, "Hey, look at the election, if you did not want them in charge you should have voted for the other party"
I would love to see Obama run and win, the issue here is whether this country is ready for an African American President, regardless of his, style, class, ect ect as far as Hillary goes, no comment one way or the other

thanks again for your reply to this post

[mkemse]

Also after 6 1/2 years, this country is in desprite need of checks and balances in Washington, so NO President has a blank check to do as he wishes, he is and always will be accoutable to the people nothis party, and whaen that stops changes, be they good or bad must be made, you can not have a Democracy where 1 party runs everything and rubber stamps all issues and bills

[BlackWatch]

I do disagree with you, mkemse....what you stated is the Preisdent BUsh has had a 'free reign' and has never been accountable...that simply is not true...most, if not all, representives and senators willingly endorsed his measures as necessary with congressional oversight at all times....in this republic (it is not a democracy) there are ALWAYS checks and balances...remember, the President is in charge primarly of foreign policy, congress with domestic....and there has not been any evidence of llegel "rubberstamping"..

FYI, I am in the district that Rep. Ney held....he lied and betrayed the people here across the board...and the Republican members fryed him, and he was held accountable....(personally I hope he is made 'queen' of the prison)...will the democrats do the same to their members? or will they do what they historically do, attempt to sweep it under the rug when a member does wrong and breaks the oath of office?

FYI 2...this year I lost a hero of mine...Randy (Duke) Cunningham....he forgot why he was there, and his oath to us all....

[mkemse]

All I meant is that with the House And Senate controled by Repbulicans, Bush has had NO problem getting his agenda pushed through, The Same exact thing happened when the Dem where in chargein years back
My point is that who ever is Presient, we need checks and balance in Congress, if we have a Democrtaic President, we need a Repbulican congress and visa vera
There as many bad Dems as Republicans do not get me wrong
Rubber Stamping no, but everything Bush ahs asked for has brezzed through the Senate as has happened with Democrats in office it has always been and will always be a 2 way street

[mkemse]

One person I would like to see run for President but he would never do it is Colin Powel

[DungeonMaster6]

I also think Colin Powell is a good man, but I just don't think he wants the job.

As far as the Republicans are concerned I think their two strongest candidates are McCain and Gulliani.

On the Democrat side Hilary Clinton seems to be the obvious front runner, but she has a long way to go.

The other person who I'm really impressed with is Obama. He seems to be very bright and he has a rather engaging personality.

[mkemse]

Dungenmaster6,

Thanks for you reply and insight
Powel would never run, I agree with you

[kizzie]

I would like to see John Edwards or Barak Obama. Be great if the two ran on the same ticket as Prez and Vice Prez. If the two were running for president, I don't know which one I would vote for. I would have to hear more from them.

[DungeonMaster6]

I agree, An Edwards/ Obama ticket would be strong.

[mkemse]

It would be, but with John Edwards Wife dealing with Breast Cancer how likely is it he will run, and does Obamam have enough "seasoning" to run andwin, I do not believe he would run just to run and are we rdy for either Female President or an African American President, I am NOT saying either yes or no, just posing a question??
I aso believe what happens in the next 2 years with Democratic Control will determine who runs and can they win, now is NOT the time for Hilary, if she runs there is a very good likely hood the Repblicans will retain control of the White House

[DungeonMaster6]

I agree, I have some reservations about Hilary myself. It's difficult sometimes to pin her down as to what she stands for. She's doing a smart thing though, positioning herself as a moderate, since most elections are determined by middle-of-the-roaders and independents.

I believe Edwards' wife's cancer is either in remission or cured, and he is already running for president.

As for Mr Obama, I'm even more impressed with him everytime I hear him talk. He's a smart man with an engaging personality.

[mkemse]

True, but is this country ready for an African-American President
For once,just once I would like to see someone elected who is qualified and strong and have the American electorate decide on a President in 2008 based on the Candidate abilities, and let's for once focus on issues and not on whehter the Prospectuve Candidate is Female, Africcan American ect
If the person can get the job done and is qualified, let's elect a President,based on their abilities and not on their Gender, Race ect
We also need to elect by popular vote and get reid of the elctoral college, to out dated and unless

[slaveneedledick]

Personally I think it needs to be a Republican which one well that is a good question. McCain lost a lot of respect of mine for his compromises and such. They (GOP) need to look for a strong governors because it seems like governors usually make decent presidents. Do not flame me about Bush he is just doing what he thoughts was right and best for the nations.

On the Dem side I do not want Hillary she had her 8 years...lol Obama he is still too junior in Wahington though he does make some valid points and is a very good public speaker. Al Gore no way still a bozo even though he is trying to "remake" himself. Kerry no way just an idiot and will never live down the I voted for it then did not vote waffle.

[mkemse]

slaveneedledick,

thanks for your reply and comments
After the Mid Term Landslide in Novemember, the Repblicans may have a very difficult time fielding anyone Americans will vote for
And even if as some have put it, the Democrats did not win, the Republicans lost, if this is true that is more the reason why the Republicans may have a hard time winning again in 2008, just a thought an opion, I appriciate yours
I am from Illinois, and for the first time in almost 30 years ever state office in now Democratic, very rarely happens but on Nov 7, Americans made their voices heard, depending on what happens the next 2 years, the Republicans could find themselves rebuilding before they win the White House again, the Democrats wen through that a few years back as well,

[Mad Lews]

Like many here I see advantages to a divided Government. Dems. holding the purse strings in congress and a Republican executive to hold them in check.or the other way around it doesn't matter to me. Gridlock can be a beautiful thing when it comes to making sure the government doesn't do too much harm, or too much of anything for that matter.
All that aside The Republicans have a few problems. The most prominent folk (highest name recognition) are Powel who won't run, McCain who is a senator(rarely do we draw chief executives from the Senate pool Kennedy was the last I believe) and worse yet a campaign would reveal that he's a bit of a kook when you scratch away at his surface. Rudy is an executive, but a Northeast Liberal (Capital L) with very progressive social leanings. That might help in a general election but it would drive the republican base away and he'd never make it through their primary.
Which brings us to the second tier, consider if you would Mitt Romney, former Massachusetts Governor,
And able to win two elections in the bluest of blue states but a devote Mormon and just staunch enough to beat out Rudy in a toe to toe for the heart and soul of the republican base. However he is from the Nor East and has learned to play well with Dems. Could be a match made in..Ummm… Washington?

[fantassy]

I can't tell you a specific person, but I sure would like to see America elect a President based on his intelligence rather than his "likeability". Hopefully, George W. has proven that just because you could imagine enjoying spending the evening with a guy does not make him good Presidential material. As far as Obama and Hillary go, I don't think an ethnic minority or a woman can get elected unless that person is a republican.

fantassy

[Mad Lews]

I can't tell you a specific person, but I sure would like to see America elect a President based on his intelligence rather than his "likeability". Hopefully, George W. has proven that just because you could imagine enjoying spending the evening with a guy does not make him good Presidential material. As far as Obama and Hillary go, I don't think an ethnic minority or a woman can get elected unless that person is a republican.

fantassy

Not sure they would need to be a Republican, but they would need to have executive experience. That is be elected Governor of a State and preferably re-elected once or twice. Obama might work his way toward that, he's young. Hillary is too polarizing to pull that off even in NY and she doesn't have the time.
And yeah I know GW was a Gov and look how that worked out, Still it's usually either Govs or VPs that get the nod in this country and ain't nobody electing Chenney (his daughter's gay ya know)

[karin]

*runs around with a 'CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT' sign*

[Stone]

Politics blah our system is broken when the founding fathers made this great country of ours they did not intend for there to be career polititions.It has seriously become a joke no matter which side wins we all loose.When was the last time you were happy with our govrenment?For me iot was the 8 years Regan was president.I will not go into the reasons why but like all of them he had his strong points and his weak.The system is corrupt the rich get their wealth stolen from them every single one of us who works hard to try to afford the better things in life get robbed by them.Take a good look around at your community and see your tax dollars at work.I am waiting for the next revolution the question is how many will join us that are totally unsatisfied with our current govrenment.

[mkemse]

It may be corrupt, but it has also shown overtime that a "Democracy" like ours, with FREE election that work, you may not like the out come but you have a choice as to who you want to vote for and can vote a such with uot fear of going to jail
The rich get richer the poor get poorer
Republicans will always be the party of Big Business, the Democrats of the working person, not system is perfect, but ours despite it problems works better then most

[Masterspet]

Ok my two cents since I have been nothing but researching canidates.

I would love to see a Libertarian president. Micheal Badernik would be great I supported him in the last election unfortuntly I think as of right now the libertarians don't have much chance. I think if they laid off a little on their support of legalizing pot it might help them be taken more seriously. I also think that the fairtax is very in line with their beliefs and would give them a lot of popular support. I can tell you as a college student they have astounding numbers of college students. I just don't think they have big enough following yet. Sadly

Now lets stay in lala land for a minuite. Bill Richardson is a governer from New Mexico and I believe he is the strongest canidate running and would make a wonderful president. The biggest thing he has going for him is 15 years experince as a diplomat which would be a great help in reparing our forgien relations. He however probably will not get the democratic nomination unless God intervens.

Now the person I think has the best chance of getting his partys nomination and possiably winning that I would support would be Rudy. Esp if he ends up running agianest Hilary. He is very liberal for a republican and I think would attract a lot of swing votes. I think the repblicans if they are smart will relaize that they are SCREWED and support him. He's a very good comprimise between the two parties, has a lot of popular support, and has proven himself a leader.

As for my opinons on Hilary and MaCain I will keep them to myself for they are not fit for a public foruam. I will say though that is anyone is really into talk radio that MaCain reminds me a lot of a talk show host named Micheal Savage. Take that as you will.